tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4447020772809150478.post7676199129052909000..comments2024-03-28T22:20:36.906-04:00Comments on TempoSenzaTempo: Theatrical LadiesMike Brubakerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13065245846262417519noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4447020772809150478.post-86556684783027989672014-07-23T13:19:48.026-04:002014-07-23T13:19:48.026-04:00I totally agree. I am curious about the upcoming e...I totally agree. I am curious about the upcoming exhibition. Wonder what emphasis it will have on this topic. Great that you contacted them!<br /><br />Are you aware that tere is a German Historic Society about the military training ground Königsbrück (Geschichtsverein Truppenübungsplatz Königsbrück e.V.)? They have a website, only in German though, including old pictures. In the part about the long history (Geschichte)they also talk about the prison camp. But I could not find info on the topic of the theaters. Maybe of interest to you and to them?! (Well, I know, it goes a bit further than music, thought just to share it.)<br /><br />Here is the link:<br /><br />http://www.geschichtsverein-tuep-kb.de/index.htmlSusanna Rosaliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11440640988741126223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4447020772809150478.post-55349053421546558152014-07-23T12:04:53.659-04:002014-07-23T12:04:53.659-04:00Vielen Dank! Thank you, Susanna Rosalie! Your tran...Vielen Dank! Thank you, Susanna Rosalie! Your translation has added real history to these postcards. I especially prize postcards like José??? which have a message about the music or performers. But I am stunned by the second message which innocently gives us a rare glimpse into the tragedy of both WW1 and WW2. Thank you for giving Soldier Seppel a voice.<br /><br />I also followed your other link to the Schwules Museum and sent them an email. After looking over the nature of the museum, I am not sure I can agree with their premise that these POW soldiers dressed in drag were gay. The circumstances of their imprisonment and their desire to produce theater shows would necessitate this kind of cross dressing, but I can not jump to a conclusion that it reveals a sexual orientation too. <br /><br />Likewise there was (and still is) a popular tradition of comic actors performing as women, or the reverse - women playing as men, in the music halls of this era. They deliberately promoted a strong risqué element of suggestive intrigue because that is what sold tickets to their shows. But again I don't think we can read such intimate personal details from a postcard image anymore than we can judge the truth in videos and images on the internet of the 21st century. Mike Brubakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13065245846262417519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4447020772809150478.post-4542100903659124502014-07-23T00:17:12.869-04:002014-07-23T00:17:12.869-04:00The second card showing the Russian Theater at the...The second card showing the Russian Theater at the prison camp Königsbrück has a stamp saying 'Übungsplatz' =drill ground or military training ground. So you are right, the card was sent by a German soldier apparently stationed at the garrison Königsbrück.<br /><br />Abs.[= sender] P. Ulbricht. Ers.[tes or atz ?? first or substitute ??] Masch.[inen] Gew.[ehr] Battl. [= Maschinegun Battalion]<br />I. Komp.[anie= company]<br />Feld Abtlg Härtel [Field Division Härtel]<br />Königsbrück Neues Lager [New Camp]<br /><br />It is addressed to his mother<br />Mrs. Rośa Ulbricht<br />Arnsdorf i/Sa [=in Sachsen/Saxony]<br />Bahnhofstr. 77c<br /><br />Thursday evening<br />My dear Muttel!<br />May God bless and protect you!<br />Today, our lieutenant told us that we are once again allowed to visit home.<br />I will likely come tomorrow evening or early Shabbat. In any case you can order your carp. I think everything is taking its course as wished. Our guns are here, but not all of the wagons yet.<br />They say that we are not going into the field before January, 5.<br />I send you my love, until we'll meet again<br />Yours Seppel<br /><br />Donnerstag abend<br />Mein liebes Muttel!<br />Der Herr segne und beschütze Dich!<br />Heute teilte uns unser<br />Leutnant mit, daß wir nochmals auf<br />Urlaub fahren dürfen. Ich komme<br />voraussichtlich morgen abend oder Sabbat<br />früh. Jedenfalls darst Du Deinen Karpfen<br />bestellen. Ich denke das alles nach Wunsch<br />geht. Unsere Gewehre sind da, aber noch<br />nicht alle Wagen. Es heißt wir kommen<br />nicht vor 5. Januar ins Feld.<br />Es grüßt Dich herzlichst<br />auf baldiges Wiedersehen Dein Seppel<br /><br />When deciphering all the words of the handwriting I was deeply moved as the fate behind it became clear. A Jewish German soldier of WWI.Susanna Rosaliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11440640988741126223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4447020772809150478.post-866941733719986382014-07-22T22:03:10.270-04:002014-07-22T22:03:10.270-04:00Here are the texts of the postcards in English (to...Here are the texts of the postcards in English (to my best knowledge) and in German.<br /><br />I start with the one of José??? and will do the other one in a new post.<br /><br />The sender was:<br />Abs.[short for Absender= sender]<br />Kan. [Kanonier= cannoneer] Huber Karl<br />Geb. Battr. 14 (K) 3.Zug<br /><br />The soldier Karl Huber sent it to<br />Herrn[= Mr.] Konrad Sinz<br />Metzger [=butcher]<br />Owingen [town]<br />Hohenzollern [province]<br /><br />Would like to write to you once again. I am always doing fine and I am healthy. Hope the same with you. At the moment we have visitors here. It is very funny. The picture shows a 'Feldgrauen' from our visitors. With many greetings, hoping for an early answer.<br />Yours sincerely Karl Huber<br /><br /><br />Will Euch nun auch<br />mal wieder schreiben.es<br />geht mir immer gut und bin<br />gesund hoffe bei Euch das<br />selbe. Wir haben zur Zeit Besuch<br />hier geht es sehr lustig zu. Das<br />Bild zeigt einen Feldgrauen<br />von unserem Besuch. Hoffe<br />mit vielen Grüßen auf baldige [?]<br />Baldige Antwort.<br />Der Ihre Karl Huber<br /><br />A 'Feldgrauer' is a synonym for a soldier, based on the color of the uniforms (field grey).<br />Susanna Rosaliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11440640988741126223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4447020772809150478.post-24779541099779161702014-07-21T10:34:55.213-04:002014-07-21T10:34:55.213-04:00I appreciate your comments about the purpose of su...I appreciate your comments about the purpose of such POW shows, especially for their power as propaganda.Wendyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17863357756727783017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4447020772809150478.post-55603696943843121162014-07-21T08:34:49.500-04:002014-07-21T08:34:49.500-04:00Fascinating insights, especially to the POW camps....Fascinating insights, especially to the POW camps. The boredom must have been dreadful and these entertainments would certainly have offered some relief. Little Nellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11862657943846727987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4447020772809150478.post-41387148937093217592014-07-21T07:29:24.739-04:002014-07-21T07:29:24.739-04:00Very well done on matching the theme so closely. ...Very well done on matching the theme so closely. An interesting post. <br /><br />Also thank you for reminding me about Google Books!Sharonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06636761469099608281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4447020772809150478.post-66020041847499652182014-07-21T05:51:04.061-04:002014-07-21T05:51:04.061-04:00Yet another fabulous piece of research, yet anothe...Yet another fabulous piece of research, yet another fascinating and interesting story. You really do this kind of thing so well. A perfect balance of research and good writing, setting off wonderful old images.Alan Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01015127443616786425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4447020772809150478.post-16360068276239365292014-07-20T19:12:52.106-04:002014-07-20T19:12:52.106-04:00Found your great post so interesting that I looked...Found your great post so interesting that I looked a bit deeper into that topic and came across news about an exhibition to be launched on Sept.,4, 2014 in Berlin:<br />'MY COMERADE - THE DIVA. Theatre of the front and the internment camps of World War I.' ('MEIN KAMERAD - DIE DIVA')<br /><br />Here are the links (in English):<br /><br />http://www.schwulesmuseum.de/en/exhibitions/view/my-comrade-the-diva-theatre-of-the-front-and-the-internment-camps-of-world-war-i/<br /><br />http://www.kamerad-diva.de/enSusanna Rosaliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11440640988741126223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4447020772809150478.post-12114061118600284132014-07-20T16:06:57.747-04:002014-07-20T16:06:57.747-04:00Sorry, the book I mentioned was "So Short a T...Sorry, the book I mentioned was "So Short a Time to Stay Here."<br />Barbara Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08351113054045427775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4447020772809150478.post-64431006275704744342014-07-20T16:05:32.499-04:002014-07-20T16:05:32.499-04:00The players and musicians were most probably priso...The players and musicians were most probably prisoners. I wonder if German POW's got to put on musicals in their camps. I recently read a novel based upon a WWI German POW camp in Hot Springs, NC, where the prisoners built a scale size German village in their spare time. (Book is "So Little Time to Stay Here.")Barbara Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08351113054045427775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4447020772809150478.post-49911936655345064162014-07-19T15:09:41.105-04:002014-07-19T15:09:41.105-04:00I'd guess the entertainment was a way for the ...I'd guess the entertainment was a way for the men to let off steam. Dressing like a woman would be so completely opposite to the every day stresses and horrors they had to face. I loved the ending of your post...you found the perfect quote. And it's so true. Helen Killeen Bauch McHarguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07042488205276127209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4447020772809150478.post-88789133214694878982014-07-19T08:47:52.187-04:002014-07-19T08:47:52.187-04:00Fascinating postcards. The fact that they were mad...Fascinating postcards. The fact that they were made shows how important postcards were at that time.Postcardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16399915833682943432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4447020772809150478.post-19762438106222777722014-07-19T02:47:30.669-04:002014-07-19T02:47:30.669-04:00I always learn so much from your posts....who knew...I always learn so much from your posts....who knew that there were productions like this in POW camps? Certainly not me.Alex Dawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05083753053051713061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4447020772809150478.post-31358482881681857422014-07-19T02:01:18.426-04:002014-07-19T02:01:18.426-04:00How true. I have a book on the RAAF POWs at Stalag...How true. I have a book on the RAAF POWs at Stalag VIIIB at Lamsdorf, where my father-in-law was held for two years.and here are a couple of extracts: "Perhaps mindful that 'Satan finds mischief for idle hands', the Germans encouraged stage shows, music and education. Bob Lawrence, the compound's stores officer, had music posted from britain, inveigled volunteers and moulded and polished his raw materials to a pitch that won more than passing praise. ... It was astonishing how bandy, bearded blokes could be transformed into Betty Grables..."Jofeathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10290597697140624780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4447020772809150478.post-9301493691418059912014-07-18T19:15:22.272-04:002014-07-18T19:15:22.272-04:00Your post card history is always interesting and e...Your post card history is always interesting and entertaining. Not being a post card sleuth, I would miss this bit of history save fore Sepians of this bent. I was surprised at the rather good staging of these productions. Far more sophisticated and complete than I would have thought possible in the camps. Thanks.Joanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07948553013206247354noreply@blogger.com